Kyle and I celebrate our 14th anniversary in a few weeks, so I was stoked to talk to my friend Katherine in this week’s podcast episode on marriage. She’s been through a whirlwind relationship with her husband, and even though they haven’t been married super-long as well (they’ve also been married fourteen years), her new book, Very Married, is one of the best books on marriage I’ve read.

The reason I like it so much is because it’s more descriptive, not prescriptive—Katherine shares her story and what she’s learned, but she’s right there in the trenches with the rest of us.

The book has gotten great reviews; even the great Eugene Peterson said, “Very Married is, without question, the very best book on marriage I have ever read—and I have read many.”

Listen here:

Links from the episode:

• Katherine’s blog
• Katherine on Twitter and Instagram
• Katherine’s book, Very Married: Field Notes on Love and Fidelity
• 16 Personalities—my favorite online Myers-Briggs test
• Katherine’s post, Passive-aggressive peanut butter
• Dr. Kelly Flanagan
• The Seven Principles for Making Marriage Work by John Gottman
• The Sex-Starved Marriage by Michele Weiner Davis
• The Five Love Languages online quiz
• Katherine’s parents dancing at her book’s release party
• And for fun, Katherine’s Very Married playlist!

You might also like Katherine’s previous stint as a guest on The Simple Show: episode 26, on everyday spiritual practices.

What’s your opinion on the five love languages? Have you benefitted from couples counseling? And if you’re married, share in the comments below how long you’ve been married—I always love hearing little stuff like this from readers and listeners!