The Simple Show with Tsh Oxenreider

Podcast ep. 23: How We Work, part 1 with Anne Bogel

This is the first episode in a series of conversations on the topic of WORK. Anne Bogel’s a great person to talk to because she has 4 kids and her husband also has his own job outside the house.

She has an online business of blogging and podcasting about books while handling a million other things. She and I both often get asked “how we do it all,” so we’re gonna dispel that myth.

We also share our daily routines, what motivates us, and why we make time for our work (hint: it’s because we love it).

The Simple Show, ep. 23: How We Work with Tsh Oxenreider and Anne Bogel

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We want to continue this conversation on work, so leave your questions for us in the comments below, and we’ll answer them in future episodes! Also let me know if you’d like to hear other recurring themes in the show (travel is already one!).

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The Simple Show, ep. 23: How We Work with Tsh Oxenreider and Anne Bogel

Tsh Oxenreider

Tsh is the founder of this blog and just finished traveling around the world with her husband and 3 kids. Her latest book is Notes From a Blue Bike, and believes a passport is one of the world's greatest textbooks.

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  1. Renee P. says:

    Thanks for another fun episode! I love that it publishes on the weekend because I get to listen to it right away!
    I would love to hear you talk more about travel and travel with kids, but I assume it’s a given that you’d talk about it!
    And maybe we could hear from some folks that are not writers/book authors/bloggers; maybe some folks that go to work in an office (or in my case, a hospital) and are still working on simplifying their life in interesting ways.
    You always find interesting topics and people so I’ll be listening no matter what!

  2. I cannot wait to listen to this podcast on my way to work on Monday morning. You are two of my most favorite blogger/podcasters. This will make my Monday so much better! Thank you!

  3. Like Renee, i would love to hear from people working out of the home and how they simplify their lives.

  4. Tish, as a blogger, writer, full-time mom and home manager, I really enjoyed this episode. Thank you both for being so honest about how you “do it all.” I’d love to know how you fit in exercise? I have to do it first thing or it doesn’t happen. That’s when I listen to podcasts and often get a lot of great inspiration for writing. Looking forward to hearing how you and Anne squeeze it in!

  5. Thank you! This was so encouraging! I also have kids ranging from 11 down to 1 and it was a nice reminder that it’s ok that this season looks different than it will when my youngest is 5. Also, as a homeschooling I/ENFP, I related on so many levels. I would love to hear more about how you moderate time on social media and balance time 1. with each kid and 2. time with hubby 3. work hours and 4. time for yourself personally and spiritually. I love that you both emphasized the fact that your writing is work and you get it done because you have to — and the fact that you love it is a plus! Sometimes I feel guilty to commit time to writing because it currently doesn’t make any *money.* Maybe you can address that topic too! Thanks! I especially love the music in the intro and conclusion of your blog. I missed the 10 questions thing you did previously. I’m not sure if you are still doing that, but I loved it!!! xo, Chelsea Rotunno (

    • Bethany says:

      I would also love to hear your thoughts on making time for writing or creativity even when it’s not making money. I’m in that crazy season of life when all three of our kids (ages 4 and under) require lots of time and attention just to keep them alive. I know this is just a season, and I don’t want to totally put the writing on the back burner, but I often feel a twinge of guilt when I take the time to do it (especially when I pay a babysitter so I can head to a coffee shop) because, like Chelsea said, it’s not generating income. I know putting a monetary value on something isn’t the only way to measure worth, but it’s definitely a hurdle I have a hard time getting over. I would love your perspective on the dilemma.

      • I second this Bethany! I am (finally) earning some income from my freelancing and have a book contract, but have woefully learned that’s not translating to livable income 🙂 I’d love to hear Tsh and Anne’s practical thoughts on nurturing the creative while still having money for groceries.

  6. two of my favorite bloggers in one podcast! hooray!!! i would love to touch on the topic of simplicity comparison – how my ‘simple’ may not look like your ‘simple’…and how to manage when guilt or jealousy starts to creep in.

  7. Great, great podcast that combined two of my very favorite podcasters!!! I would really love to know how you decide what activities/extracurriculars your children are involved in. Compared to our peers, we lead a pretty slow life. It feels like there is a lot of pressure or fear of missing out on activities that our children may love or that would be very good for them when we really just want to spend time as a family in the evenings. How do you determine what to try and how do you know when it’s time to let something go?

  8. As a mom of 3 and someone who is considering starting a blog, I was so glad to hear this conversation. I would really like to
    Continue hearing these sort of nuts and bolts conversations about how different moms do all that they do. I think most of us are always wondering how others handle various aspects of their day to day. Thanks Tsh!

  9. This is so perfectly perfect for me right now–starting a blog, transitioning to working from home AND homeschooling. I finally started getting up early and sneaking out to get something done. Even if it’s work, I need to feel like I have had something for ME before I give for the next few hours.
    I guess my questions around work right now are pretty practical. How can I make money from this blogging thing?
    We just moved to an ecovillage in the middle of nowhere. We are loving it. But we have to scramble to make a living in entirely new ways and it’s scary!

  10. Enjoyed hearing two of my favorite podcast people talking to each other! So when Anne starts reading at 2, what are the kids doing? I would love to read at 2 everyday, but I have 3 little humans who make that complicated. Also, as someone who works partly at home and has kids, when do you clean!? That is my biggest struggle. I can fit in the work and the kid time but struggle with keeping the house side of things done.

  11. I love the idea behind this series. And I appreciate any words of wisdom surrounding young kids and work. I loved your recent podcast with Maggie Whitley, and it’s encouraging to hear you and Anne speak of changing seasons in which some of it gets easier and some of it gets harder as kids age. I’m in the thick of littles right now, but considering homeschooling and definitely know I don’t want to go back to full-time teaching even if my kids do go to traditional school. I’m trying to lay the groundwork for being able to work for myself as a photographer and writer, but again, I’m in the thick of littles and trying to prioritize well!

  12. The thought from today’s show that really stuck with me was your comment about how you wait to have coffee because of your youngest being a light sleeper. You mentioned that you thought it might be too much to have a french press in your bedroom. I thought about this for quite awhile and it seems like such a way to bring joy to your morning with a small electric kettle and a french press in your bedroom. Then I thought about it some more and decided the entire thing would hinge on how you take your coffee. Black or with sugar or with creamer at room temperature would work great. But if your favorite preparation involves milk…well, the joy of the whole thing falls apart. Sometimes it’s something totally deep from your shows that I remember and sometimes it is the mundane. Enjoyed this and look forward to the next one.

  13. Love this series! I’ve got two little boys (1 and 3) and we are considering homeschooling in the future. I’d love to hear a snapshot of both of your typical days and how you fit in important and necessary things like exercise, time for hobbies, meal prep, laundry/cleaning, grocery shopping, home projects, or family outings/activities. This is where I imagine your weekdays look different than your weekends and it would be great to know what you realistically “fit in” during your week and what falls to the weekend (either fun stuff or just necessary life stuff). I love hearing the broader concepts of time/kid/work management but also love hearing the nitty gritty details of peoples lives and systems. Can’t wait for the next podcast with Anne!

  14. I’d love to hear you guys talk social media too. How it looks for you to utilize it for business and personal, how to keep that jealousy vibe from creeping in, how to grow readers from community instead of just “read my post!”

  15. This episode was fun! I agree with Renee & Lea-perspective on work/life balance when jobs take us to offices, schools(like me), hospitals, etc. would be helpful. Also some perspective from singles (like me), married no kids, or single parents as sole breadwinners would be insightful. Other themes I love-books/book clubs, time management, personal growth/development, good causes (like Neighbor’s Table was), podcasts.

  16. Christina says:

    I’d love to hear more about Anne’s homeschooling arrangements. Do her kids attend a private or public school? I too would like to find a way to have my daughter attend school just 1 or 2 days a week, then do the rest at home. I like the hybrid model. Can Anne tell us more about how it developed for her family?

  17. This is so fantastic. I can’t wait for more. For me figuring out what to do is the issue. I need something. But I have yet to find it. I would love to hear more on how you decided what to do in the beginning. I have a blog… and it used to be a craft blog. Then that stopped when my daughter was diagnosed with cancer. So then I had a blog with our story as that unfolded. And after that… 5 years of stuck. I never feel like I am exlert enough at something to make it into anything more. I don’t know that you can solve that, but I would love to hear if you felt that way and how you moved forward.

    Anne, I agree that you seem much more organized than the typical INFP. I have been thinking you must be close to a J. Because I am a full on scattered INFP! But you have inspired me to have routines that work. It took me 7 years but we finally have one for homeschooling! lol!

  18. Hey Tsh. I loved this episode, as usual. As a blogger, I really resonated with your quirk of having some blogs written as drafts, that don’t get published because they aren’t really saying anything. You are the mmth person to say “bullet journal” this week so I’m on my way to go check those out. I’d love to hear more about yours. Also, I’d love to hear how a person can use their blog to make money, without gaudy advertising on their website. I can’t wait for the next episode!

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